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- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 94 04:30:09 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #757
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-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 7 Jul 94 Volume 94 : Issue 757
-
- Today's Topics:
- "boatanchors" mailing list? no response...
- Anyone experienced with Cushcraft R7?
- A Proposed Message System
- Copying CW, and why it's friendlier than phone
- GQRP Society contact
- Humorous Field Day Stories?
- remote controlled ATV station
-
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-
- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 07:20:12 GMT
- From: news.Hawaii.Edu!kahuna!jeffrey@ames.arpa
- Subject: "boatanchors" mailing list? no response...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <2vg4ri$a31@nic.scruz.net> bill@cruz.com (Bill VanAlstyne) writes:
- >I was given the mail address...
- >
- >boatanchors-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu
- >
- >...to be put on the "boatanchors" mailing list. However, I've received
- >neither a "bounce" nor any mail, and this was more than a week ago. Does
- >anyone know if this address is correct? A "whois" search on this address
- >doesn't show it to be active, according to a friend of mine who would
- >also like to get on the list.
- >
- >Bill VanAlstyne, N6FN
- >bill@cruz.com
-
- Bill and anyone else interested in this wonderful forum:
- Sometimes it takes Paul a bit of time to respond to sub and unsub
- requests so please be patient.
-
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 08:08:35 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!library.ucla.edu!csulb.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!herbr@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Anyone experienced with Cushcraft R7?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Subject: Anyone experienced with Cushcraft R7?
- Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.antenna
- Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest)
- Summary:
- Keywords:
-
- I am in a restricted antenna house, and I am looking for suggestions on a
- antenna for HF. In previous lives, I have tried to use several different
- vertical antennas including Butternut and Hygain, only to be very
- disapointed.
-
- The Cushcraft R7 has caught my eye, and I would appreciate hearing from
- anyone with experience with it.
-
- I am also curious about the GAP antenna, and would appreciate any other
- suggestions for good performing HF antennas in a limited space and
- restricted envirnoment.
-
- Thanks.
-
- --
- herbr@netcom.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 07:29:47 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!usenet.ucs.indiana.edu!battin@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: A Proposed Message System
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- A Proposed Message System,
- or,
- How I Intend to Save the World with Ham Radio
- L. Gene Battin, N9XAM
-
- Observations/problems
-
- 1. The FCC has recently done what it could to assist the growth of message-
- handling systems by stating that relaying stations wouldn't be punished for
- inproper message content.
-
- 2. This leaves a percieved "bottleneck" at the originating station, who must
- still examine each message for legality before sending it into the system.
-
- 3. Most non-hams are probably totally unaware that the Amateur Radio Service
- can legally handle messages for them of a trivial, non-commercial nature.
-
- 4. Even if a non-ham does know about it, they are not likely to make any
- sustained effort to locate a traffic-handling ham, particularly for a trivial,
- non-commercial message, unless they happen to stumble across one at, say, a
- county fair or something.
-
- 4a. Because of the collapse of Western Civilization, the percentage of people
- attending county fairs is prbably decreasing with time.
-
- 5. Result: less traffic through NTS than might -potentially- occur.
-
- A Brief History of My Next Project:
-
- I recently bought an IBM PS/2 30-286 and a cheap 14.4kbaud modem. I am having
- a second, computer-dedicated phone line installed. Plan 'A' was to set up a
- landline BBS, just for fun.
-
- I also recently get a 2-meter rig, and decided, since I have a computer, I'd
- get a TNC and fiddle around with some packet stuff. (Plan 'B'.)
-
- Now, to some extent, plan 'A' and plan 'B' collide, so I figured I'd merge
- them into a new, improved plan 'C'. What I now intend to do is to set up a
- BBS system, but not just _any_old_ BBS system. Instead, I envision the
- following:
-
- Local Joe College Student has just got an 'A' on his Chemistry mid-terms.
- He'd like to brag to his uncle, who lives 1000 miles away, but Joe, being
- a typical poor starving college student can't really afford to pay to send
- such a trivial message via commercial means. (Insert standard justification
- for handling Joe's message via Ham radio here...) So, Joe uses his school
- computer account to dial out to my BBS, where he is presented with a
- menu-driven, digitzed, lineal descendant of the ARRL numbered, prepackaged
- message forms. Because my system allows him to compose an individualized
- message (one from column A, two from column B, etc.) from all of the pre-
- programmed pieces, he quickly formats his request, fills in the "To" and
- "From" fields, and then selects "Save and Transmit". Later that day, or the
- next, I perform my routine BBS maintenance, via a cleverly designed sysop
- interface that allows me to 1) archive all request messages, 2) review
- any message I care to, and then, at the push of a key, 3) connect to the
- local packet digipeater (or whatever), and upload all my outgoing messages
- safely on their way to the NTS. Note the following: I am _safe_ because the
- system only allows legal, non-obscene "trivial" messages. I remain legally
- in control of the transmission (none of this confusing "Reverse Autopatch,
- whose in control" stuff). If I'm paranoid, I can always veto any message,
- but, with a well-written message-composition "door" that really shouldn't
- be needed.
-
- Results:
-
- Joe, happy "customer" of ham radio tells all his friends. Comes finals week
- and I am buried under requests from kids wanting to send perfectly legal,
- trivial messages to their folks and friends. Since hundreds of other hams in
- college towns are providing similar services all across the nation, NTS is
- in danger of being swamped from traffic overload. In desperation, the ARRL
- petitions the FCC to vastly increase the spectrum of the ham bands to prevent
- the "imminent collapse of the airwaves", and the FCC, seeing how valuable
- and desired a service to the public ham radio is, grants huge extra
- spectrum. I go down in history as the savior of ham radio and everone lives
- happily ever after. Also, since all the poor freshmen who have never been
- away from home before can now cheaply and easily keep in touch with their
- folks, friends, and home-town roots, I strike yet another blow against the
- disintegration of the family and the collapse of Western Civilization!
- Pretty neat, huh?
-
- P.S. If there are setups like this already in operation, could someone
- point me to some references so's I won't have to write the needed BBS
- doors? Tnx.
-
- Morale:
-
- I'm perfectly happy to save the world, but I'd rather not have to write
- the software to do so, unless I really gotta.
-
- P.P.S. Note that I don't _really_ solve the problems presented in items 1 and
- 2 above, but solve a similar, related problem instead. This is called a
- "paradigm shift" and is covered in Creativity 101. I think Ham Radio _needs_
- some paradigm shifts right about now. Sorry to get serious on ya.
-
- P.P.P.S. I left out the smileys 'cause I'm not so sure which part I'm serious
- about. Really, although I haven't seen any system like this described (which
- isn't saying much since I haven't really looked real hard) I'd be somewhat
- surprised to find that it _hasn't_ been done. I'd really like to set something
- like this up, so if anyone knows if it _has_ been done, point me in the right
- direction. Flames will be ignored.
-
- --
- Gene Battin, N9XAM
- battin@iucf.indiana.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 20:48:51 GMT
- From: spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Copying CW, and why it's friendlier than phone
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1994Jul6.121437.1@woods.uml.edu> martinja@woods.uml.edu writes:
-
- >Try this? QRT LID, NET HR DLY
- >
- >I'm sure you thought of this didn't you Scott? Says the same thing and saves
- >a lot of time. Of course without the comma you'd think there was a LID net
- >going on daily. he hehe. Yeah, imagine that, a LID net.
-
- Don't listen to 2m while traveling through NYC metro much, do you? :-)
-
- I must concur that when "coded" consistently, CW QSOs can be very concise
- and friendly. Unfortunately, the Elmers ( Elmer? What's an Elmer?)
- don't seem to be passing along the time-honored abbreviations and the
- Q code has migrated to FM. Or is it that the new breed of operator doesn't
- LISTEN and makes up a new CW language as he goes along? I can't tell you
- how many times I've sent things like TU FER CALL UR 5NN HR IN NJ K
- and the response was "..--.." or worse, "Thank you for returning my CQ.
- My QTH here is in North Weedleheimer and the weather is cloudy and my name is
- Schlemozzle." And of course the code was
-
- DAAAAAH DIT DIT DIT DIT DIT DAAAAAAH...
-
- (I KNOW it takes a while for a fist to develop; mine did, and I'm still not
- where I want to be. But, c'mon...)
-
- Having been the new guy on the air, I try to be patient and introduce these
- folks to shorthand, but it's frustrating. I don't see near as many newbies
- getting the personal attention in code I did when I first started. :-(
- (One such guide was N2XJ, who taught me how to get "a dozen decent dits"
- out of my bug; you've no idea how that helped my straight key fist.)
-
- 73 ES CUL
- --
- Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
- "Please keep your seat belt securely fastened, keep hands and feet inside the
- car at all times, secure loose items, exit to your right, and enjoy your day at
- SixFlagsDisneyKing's GreatMagicDominionIsland BerryFarmGardensParkWorldLand."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Jul 1994 09:48:40 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!dl278@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: GQRP Society contact
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Is there someone from GQRP around who could have some info sent
- to me?
-
- Bill
- .
-
- --
- Bill "the Rev" Graham - "May You NEVER Thirst!"
- email to: bgraham@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
- ampr: N5LMX@K9IU.IN.USA.NA (but I'm in Germany (DA1WG), honest!)
- "My head hurts, my feet stink and I don't love Jesus!"- J. Buffett
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 06 Jul 94 22:47:12 GMT
- From: spcuna!starcomm.overleaf.com!n2ayj!n2ayj@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Humorous Field Day Stories?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- It was on one of my first Field Days with a NNJ radio club.
- There was a faction within the club (isn't there always?) that had a
- particularly dominant Practical Joke gene. This was about the time the
- 'A' 2x1 calls were coming out, and there was some confusion as to what
- was legit and what was not. Well, W*2*** decided this was too good to pass up,
- so he became "RG8U, portable W2", with just a hint of not identifiable accent.
-
- The real pile-ups should have been so good!
-
- (WARNING: Do not try this at home, kids! False IDs are illegal.)
-
- --
- Stan Olochwoszcz, N2AYJ - n2ayj@n2ayj.overleaf.com
- "Please keep your seat belt securely fastened, keep hands and feet inside the
- car at all times, secure loose items, exit to your right, and enjoy your day at
- SixFlagsDisneyKing's GreatMagicDominionIsland BerryFarmGardensParkWorldLand."
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 7 Jul 1994 05:57:45 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!news.media.mit.edu!steve@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: remote controlled ATV station
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am wondering if anyone on this newsgroup has operated a remotely
- controlled ATV station (I noticed in rec.models.rc that there is
- quite a bit of videocar and videoplane activity, though they were
- mostly using small video transmitters that need no license).
-
- Some of the catalogs I have ordered (SUPERCIRCUITS AND PC ELECTRONICS)
- feature ATV transmitters that they have designed for use in
- radio-controlled cars or planes. I was wondering if it is necessary
- to have the car broadcast the user's call sign, or if the whole setup
- falls under the class of `remote control toy' which do not require call
- sign broadcast, even though it is really a remote control toy with
- confirmation (e.g. full duplex communication is taking place).
-
- Also, I was wondering if anyone has tried SUPERCIRCUITS products, as they
- sell 3 different systems that appear suitable for my project:
- 1. A 915 MHz 10w linear amplifier for use with the `Rabbit' or Retocon
- FCC approved video link that normally does not need a license, but
- presumably with their 10 watt amplifier falls under a ham license.
- If I got this product, might I want to change the freq. slightly
- so as not to bother anyone who is using a 915 MHz link in their home???
- 2. A 439.25 MHz 2w ATV transmitter and downconverter.
- 3. A 1 watt 1.2 GHz FM-ATV video link.
-
- I was wondering which of these would likely give me the best performance
- in an urban or indoor environment surrouned by hundreds of computers
- and other heavy machinery (e.g. something that could get nice clean video
- from the basement to the fourth floor of a typical building, without
- any dropouts as the transmitter and receiver are moved around).
-
- --steve@media.mit.edu
- N1NLF
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 7 Jul 1994 07:05:21 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!darkstar.UCSC.EDU!nic.scruz.net!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <FAUNT.94Jul1181923@netcom4.netcom.com>, <CsALB5.G2n@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, <1994Jul3.112725.1@woods.uml.edu>ยช
- Subject : Re: CW - THE ONLY MODE!
-
- In article <1994Jul3.112725.1@woods.uml.edu>, martinja@woods.uml.edu (JJ Martin)
- says:
-
- [deletions...]
- >
- >Wonder what others think here...wouldn't it be best to learn code by head copy
- >and not paper & pencil copy? I know Luck alluded to using a computer and
- >your favorite word processor, but then you would have to know how to type also.
- >The COVOX idea seems sound enough though. But looking back, I wish I had been
- >taught to copy without the aid of any external memory storage devices, other
- >than for maybe jotting down notes for the sake of QSO continuity or something
- >like that. Those of us who learned code the "old fashioned way" pencil & paper
- >took a lot of hits when we'd miss a character. Later we learned how to just
- >press on past those missed characters. I wonder how much less time would have
- >been involved in getting the speed up to say 25 wpm or so if we had not gone
- >that route?
- >
-
- I too started learning code (teaching myself, actually) using pen and paper. (I
- never have been able to tolerate using a pencil. Too scratchy.) As a Novice, I
- dutifully wrote down everything that was being sent to me, and after I had copied
- it all down, I would go back through it, and draw little lines between the words,
- and read them back to myself. But you can do that at 5WPM. When you start trying to
- do it at 15WPM, or 20WPM, then it gets kinda wild.
-
- Anyway, this brought to mind my "enlightenment experience" about copying CW...
-
- It was about 1964, and I had just gotten my General. I was attending a meeting of
- the Rochester (NY) Amateur Radio Association, and the guest speaker was Mabel
- Rager, W2RUF. During the sixties, and for many decades before that, she was a
- mainstay on the NTS (National Traffic System), always 100% CW; she could (and did)
- copy 35-40WPM plus, on paper without error, for hours on end. But, interestingly
- enough, her talk that evening was about the _other_ kind of CW operation, basic
- ragchewing. She couldn't imagine why anyone would want to write all that stuff
- down, like some kind of court stenographer! Well, I was pretty awed by Mabel, and
- she made head-copying sound so easy and so logical, I started trying to do it. It
- was hard at first, but within just a week or two, I found that I was starting to
- accomplish it with less difficulty. And it got easier and easier the more I did it.
-
- Thing is, it's pretty hard to hold it all in your head at 5WPM, or even 10WPM. But
- as you start copying faster, you start hearing whole words, not just letters. It
- actually starts to get like a _language_, and you find yourself hearing the sounds
- of _words_. Often, unfamiliar words will have to be assembled mentally out of their
- constituent letters, but this becomes easy, too, with practice.
-
- The other interesting thing about this approach is that I've never "forgotten" the
- code, even though I've been off the air HF/CW-wise for quite a few years. I can
- still copy 25-30WPM in my head. I think there may be a threshold you pass when it
- starts to get like a real language. You wouldn't forget how to speak English if you
- lived in China for five or ten years, would you? Of course not.
-
- So it seems to me that it's just a matter of learning a different way, and
- practicing it a lot. Maybe there are certain kinds of brains that can do it easier,
- but I've seen no evidence of that. (I also think there is a value to being able to
- take written copy well, too. Why limit yourself?)
-
- 73,
- Bill VanAlstyne N6FN
- bill@cruz.com
-
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-
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